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backstabbing

Discussion in 'BG2: Throne of Bhaal (Classic)' started by noldor372, Feb 21, 2005.

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    [​IMG] I've never been able to get my thief characters to pull off a backstab. The computer seems to be able to do it all the time. How do I do it?
     
    noldor372, Feb 21, 2005
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    The Magpie Balance, in all things Veteran

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    [​IMG] Firstly, ensure your thief is hidden in shadows. Then, position them behind the enemy, and attack. If a hit is scored (at +4 bonus) then the backstab will be successful, so long as the weapon held is usable by a thief character. [EDIT: and a melee weapon, natch]

    The behind part is important, and differs from plain BG1 and PS:T, where backstabbing could often seem more akin to "facestabbing", as there was no such distinction. :shake:
    Also, enemies don't need to be behind you to land a backstab! :grr:
     
    The Magpie, Feb 21, 2005
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    You can also backstab if you are invisible and behind the enemy.

    Things that can prevent backstabbing from being successful include:
    - not using a backstabbing weapon (e.g. you can't backstab with a quarterstaff)
    - missing your hit roll (thieves have pretty crappy THAC0 so often miss - that's why Fighter / Thieves are best for backstabbing)
    - the enemy is immune to backstabbing (e.g. golems, who have no vital organs to stab at)
    - you're not hidden properly (e.g. the enemy has True Sight or similar detection spell operating)
     
    Harbourboy, Feb 22, 2005
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    Actually, HB is not quite right. Quarterstaffs can be used to backstab. The true issue is that you have to use a weapon that a true-class thief could use. Thus, a mage/thief (or a thief with UAI) could use the staff of the magi, but could not back-stab with it.
     
    dmc, Feb 22, 2005
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    Ah, I knew I'd manage to get that one wrong!
     
    Harbourboy, Feb 22, 2005
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    Harbourboy may be partially correct. I have a hafling assassin who is proficient with shortsword, and quartrestaff.

    I can always pull off backstabb's with any shortsword but I can rarely do this with the 'Staff of Striking'. Can anyone let me know whats wrong?
     
    Cúchulainn, Feb 22, 2005
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    fighter/thief as multiclass are really the best for backstabing.
    With HLA Critical Strike you will Hit and you will do 10 times damage unless its a mage with some protective spells or that creature is immune to backstab.

    to DMC: i should try to backstab with staff of ram , thanx for posting this
     
    Dave Q Stone, Feb 22, 2005
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    Hmm, the best HLA for a fighter/thief who wants to do the ole massive damage is the assassination... good main-hand weapon + belm/scarlet ninjato + impr. haste = bad things for the target :)
     
    The Shaman, Feb 22, 2005
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    The Shaman:

    - when i have HLA there is no need to cast impr.haste, whirlwind is more then good
    - best combination for multi fighter/thief is hide (with spell or skill) , HLA Critical Strike and backstab. That kills anything with one single blow (of course when that creature can be backstabed and wears no helmet)
     
    Dave Q Stone, Feb 23, 2005
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