Multiclass question

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I am playing a human rogue/fighter 2/2 I am planning to take my next level as a ranger just for the free feats. I will not progress in ranger any further just that first level. Will I get XP penalty when my fighter and rogue levels are getting high? I have problem interpreting the manual. I understand that I wont get it if I have one class that is alot higher than the others but if I have fighter and rogue both pretty high and then ranger still at one, do I get XP penalty then?

 

I'll explain it to you...

if you multiclass your highess class doesn't count for the xp penalty...

so a 10 lvl fighter and 4 lvl rogue will be ok.

because the highess class is the fighter in my example and it doesnt care about it.

but if you take a lvl of ranger...

you will be 10/4/1 the highess doen't count so it will be as if you were 4/1 so yes you will have the 20% penalty.


But I think it doesn't matter because you will probably reach the max exp. by the end of the game.


Hope it helps a little bit

 

So if I am a 5th lvl fighter 5th level rogue and 1st level ranger I will get the XP penalty? Damn, I should have taken those two weapon feats earlier
I am 2/2 now and next level would have been ranger and after that every second level as rogue and fighter, if I understand you correctly the penalty kicks in when my char reach level 4 in either rouge or fighter correct?

 

It's only the highest that counts? So if I make a halfling(rogue suffers no xp penalty when multiclassing) rogue/sorcerer, I mustn't let the sorcerer rise more than 1 level above the rogue? I understood the favored class doesn't count no matter where it stood relative to the other class.

Humans and Half-Elves are supposed to be compatible with all classes when multiclassing right? So basically a human should be able to multiclass any 3 classes with any level differences, and he'd still get no xp penalty. Or does this count for the class the character begins with only?

Edit: And btw, remember that rangers have their dualweapon feats only when wearing light armor.

[This message has been edited by Forashi (edited July 05, 2002).]

 

The 'favored' class doesn't count. Your halfling's rogue class doesn't count, no matter what.

Humans and Half-Elves have a favored class of "whatever their highest class is". So the human character with three classes would only be free of an exp penalty if the lowest two were within one of each other.

In the poster's example, he would begin getting an experience penalty at character level 7, when he was F3/Ro3/Ra1. At that point, his character is no longer 'in balance' after he throws out the high score.

Aloha
Vormaerin

 

Here's how it works. Humans and Half-Elves get to disregard their highest level class, whatever it is, from consideration when multiclassing. Whatever classes are left must be within one level of each other, otherwise you get the XP penalty. The remaining races get to disregard their favoured class (if they have any levels in it), regardless of how many levels they have in it compared to their other classes.

Some examples:
Human FTR/ROG 5/5 : no penalty (FTR is disregarded)
Human FTR/ROG/RNG 5/5/4: no penalty (FTR disregarded, RNG & ROG within 1 level)
Half-Elf FTR/ROG/RNG 5/5/1 : penalty (FTR disregarded, ROG & RNG not within 1 level)
Halfling ROG/SOR 3/5 : no penalty (ROG disregarded)
Halfling ROG/SOR/FTR 3/3/5 : penalty (ROG disregarded, SOR & FTR not within 1 level)
Half-Orc FTR/MNK 5/3 : penalty (nothing disregarded [Half-Orc's favoured class is barbarian], FTR & MNK not within 1 level)

Hope that helps!

 

OK lemme try to explain the whole multiclassing thing and favored class system again. Humans and half elves are not assigned a favored class by the game. Their favored class is whatever class they have the most levels in. So basically, they're allowed to pick theirs by progressing the most in it. It can change at any time. All other races are assigned one by the game. So half orcs get barbarian, halflings get rogue, etc.
Even though these favored classes are assigned differently, they all function the same way. They do not count against you in multiclassing. Just forget they even exist when determining how you multiclass. They're freebies. Now on to the more important thing that might get you in trouble: non favored classes and xp penalties.
There's only one rule here. Keep non favored classes within one level of each other. It wouldn't matter when you took that level of ranger, be it early in the game or later. Eventually, when you raise that other non favored class level higher then one level above ranger (level three in this example), you would start taking an xp penatly.
In the second question, you are making a class with only two levels. Don't worry about that. Rouge is your favored class. You don't count that; it's free. The only way you'd have to worry is if you wanted to add a third class. Then you'd have to keep it within one level of your non favored class (sorcerer).
And for the last question, no humans and half elves can't multiclass freely with three classes without restrictions. They have the same multiclass restrictions as everyone else. The only benefit of these races is they don't have a class assigned to them by the game. They may choose one. If for instance, I wanted to make a ranger/barbarian/fighter, and I had the most levels of ranger, I would still have to keep fighter and barbarian within one level of each other, else I would incur an xp hit. I would not have to worry about ranger levels because it is my favored class at the moment because I have the most levels in it.
Hopefully all this makes a little most sense. The game manual lacks detail on alot of stuff, but if there any more questions, ask away.

 

Wow, nice summary, I think I understand it pretty good now. Im still confused a little though. The only thing I dont get is, with the penelty does that just make you get less xp? or does it not let you get to max level?

 

It just reduces the amount of experience you get. You can still get to 20th level as a character, you just need to do more experience gathering to get there.

Aloha
Vormaerin

 

Thanks very much! Ill just ignore the whole penelty thing then and work hard to max my level.