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Starting Wisdom

Discussion in 'Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition' started by Sorvo, Aug 14, 2022.

  1. Sorvo

    Sorvo Where's the nearest pub? Distinguished Member ★ SPS Account Holder Veteran

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    Provided you're not playing a Cleric, Druid or Paladin I'd like to know what you think is a sufficient score for you to start the game as a young newbie adventurer. I already know the score means nothing other than lore bonus if you're not playing a character above. I'm thinking between 8-10.
     
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    Rangers need a 14 or above as well.

    i try to keep it above 8, but thats for roleplaying only. If playing on a higher difficulty and using the more advanced options of SCS, min max away, you may need to.
     
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    Oh yeah, I thought I missed one. Thanx :beer:
     
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    This is the BG1 forum, but
    • if you are planning on taking a sorcerer or wizard into Shadows of Amn or Throne of Bhaal, you'll also want a reasonable wisdom score for casting Limited Wish and Wish. Those are two of the most powerful spells in the game, and don't have the XP penalty they do in P&P (just like Stoneskin and True Sight don't have costly material components like in P&P, making them far more useful by virtue of not having prohibitively high costs to cast).
      Of course, for some wishes you'll want to quaff a potion of insight.
      So magic-users and sorcerers won't want a wisdom below 11.
    • Monks also get bonuses based on their wisdom, so they too won't want to go below 10 and preferably around 14.
    • Bards might want to keep it at 8 or higher for lore purposes.
    • Fighters, thieves, and barbarians can use WIS as a dump stat.
    • Clerics, Druids, Paladins, and Rangers use WIS for casting, and should NOT be below 14.
      Clerics and Druids should try for 18 or higher.
     
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    Er ... not quite.

    Yes, WIS is useful in BG2 for Wizards to cast Wish or Limited Wish (but as you suggest, a Potion of Insight temporarily boosts WIS sufficiently for those spells, so investing precious stat points in WIS is pointless unless you intend to cast those spells frequently). If you're playing BG1 only (or BG1ee+SoD only), then Wizards have little use for WIS.

    No, Monks get nothing for WIS (except the Lore bonus which everyone gets). (Although PnP is different.)

    Yes, if you're relying on a Bard to identify stuff, then avoid Lore penalties by having WIS 8 or higher.

    Yes, Fighters (inc. Barbarians) and Thieves gain no advantage from WIS (except Lore).

    Yes, Clerics and Druids get extra castings-per-day for extra WIS and therefore should maximise their WIS, but NO, Paladins and Rangers don't get that bonus - they have a minimum WIS required by the class but get no benefit from going above the minimum.
     
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    I might have confused IWD2 rules where you need 10+spell level in the casting stat so paladins and rangers need 14 wisdom, and where monks get wisdom bonuses.
    Sorry.
     
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    Mostly except Pallys need Wis to cast spell levels. At creation Pally only needs 13 Wis but he still needs 14 Wis to cast 4th level spells in BG2. Ranger requires a 14 at creation so he doesn't run into this issue.
     
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