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Other good AD&D CRPGs?

Discussion in 'Playground' started by gibberishh, Feb 25, 2023.

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    That is exactly the reason I was asking about the PP progression with dual-classed characters.
    Psionicists get more PP per level than warriors and I feared that when dual-classed they would be locked out of the psionicists PP until you surpassed the gladiator level.

    BTW, if you enjoy grinding, I recommend the Disgaea series. I've only been trying Disgaea 1, but there is a lot of grinding in the item world to get the residents you desire.
     
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    Update: if you are taking your party into WotR, you need at least 1 high level thief. A lot of lock-picking and trap-disarming seems to work off the thief level. Not explicitly tested each level but I suspect an L8 thief should be fine within a dual class, or any type of multiclass thief.
     
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    Just putting up a text version of the translation of items from Darksun 1 to Darksun 2 in case anyone wants to provide updates or clarifications. Stuff with ? I was never able to verify.
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    Type      |  Shattered Lands                                |  Wake of the Ravager
    ----------+-------------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------------
    1H Weapon |  +1 Axe                                         |  +1 Axe
    1H Weapon |  +1 Black Mace (Shocking Grasp)                 |  +1 Mace (Shocking Grasp)
    1H Weapon |  +1 Draketooth (Str)                            |  +1 Longsword (Aid?)
    1H Weapon |  +1 Hornblade                                   |  20800 cp
    1H Weapon |  +1 Soulcrusher Axe                             |  +1 Axe
    1H Weapon |  +2 Bone Mace                                   |  +2 Bone Mace
    1H Weapon |  +2 Dark Flame (Burning Hands)                  |  +2 Sword (Burning Hands)
    1H Weapon |  +2 El's Drinker (Vampiric Touch)               |  +2 El's Drinker (Vampiric Touch)
    1H Weapon |  +2 Mace                                        |  +2 Mace
    1H Weapon |  +2 Swiftbite                                   |  +2 Longsword
    1H Weapon |  +2 Terror Blade (Poison)                       |  +2 Dagger
    1H Weapon |  +3 Dagolar's Dagger (Charisma)                 |  +3 Dagger (Slow?)
    1H Weapon |  +4 Dragonsbane                                 |  +4 Dragonsbane
    1H Weapon |  Chameleon Gloves (Cause Blindness or Deafness) |  Gloves (Mind Blank?)
    1H Weapon |  Quicksilver Glove (Detonate)                   |  Gloves (Detonate)
    2H Weapon |  +1 Balkazar's Staff (Slow)                     |  +1 Quarterstaff (Slow)
    2H Weapon |  +1 Gythka                                      |  +1 Gythka
    2H Weapon |  +1 Staff of Parting                            |  +1 Quarterstaff
    2H Weapon |  +2 Quarterstaff                                |  +2 Quarterstaff
    2H Weapon |  +3 Great Axe                                   |  +3 Great Axe
    Ammo      |  Arrows                                         |  Arrows
    Ammo      |  +1 Arrows                                      |  +1 Arrows
    Ammo      |  +2 Arrows                                      |  +2 Arrows
    Ammo      |  +3 Arrows                                      |  +3 Arrows
    Amulet    |  Iron Necklace (Fireball)                       |  50000 cp
    Amulet    |  Silver Necklace (Biofeedback)                  |  Necklace (Biofeedback)
    Amulet    |  Talisman of Venom                              |  Necklace 50cp
    Armor     |  Belt of Might (Str)                            |  Leather Chest Armor (+1AC)
    Armor     |  Drake Armor (+2AC, Resist Cold)                |  8000 cp
    Armor     |  Grey's Scale Arm Amor (+2AC)                   |  Chain Leg Armor (+1AC)
    Armor     |  Grey's Scale Leg Amor (+2AC)                   |  Chain Arm Armor (+2AC)
    Armor     |  Helm of Contemplation (Gaze Reflection)        |  Bone Chest Armor (+2AC)
    Armor     |  Helm of Might (Str)                            |  Helm (AC0)
    Armor     |  Living Cloak (Inertial Barrier)                |  Cloak (Inertial Barrier)
    Armor     |  Serpent Boots (Displacement)                   |  20000 cp
    Armor     |  Shimmer Armor (+4AC, Free Action)              |  24000 cp
    Armor     |  Silk Armor (+3AC)                              |  Bone Chest Armor (+4AC)
    Armor     |  Tanelyv's Chest Armor (+4AC)                   |  Chain Armor (+2AC)
    Armor     |  Tanelyv's Arm Armor (+4AC)                     |  Chain Leg Armor (+3AC)
    Armor     |  Tanelyv's Leg Armor (+3AC)                     |  Chain Arm Armor (+4AC)
    Fruit     |  Apple (Ironskin)                               |  Acorn (Ironskin)
    Fruit     |  Banana (Strength)                              |  Banana (Cure Disease)
    Fruit     |  Corn (Barkskin)                                |  Corn (Barkskin)
    Fruit     |  Green Grapes (Bless)                           |  Green Grapes (Bless)
    Fruit     |  Guava (Poison)                                 |  100 cp
    Fruit     |  Lemon (Restore Psi Points)                     |  Lemon (Restore Psi Points)
    Fruit     |  Lime (Dispel Magic)                            |  Lime (Cure Critical Wounds)
    Fruit     |  Orange (Aid)                                   |  Orange (Aid)
    Fruit     |  Orange Grapes (Neutralize Poison)              |  Orange Grapes (Neutralize Poison)
    Fruit     |  Purple Grapes (Cure Blindness or Deafness)     |  Purple Grapes (Cure Blindness or Deafness)
    Fruit     |  Red Pear (Cure Serious Wounds)                 |  Red Pear (Cure Serious Wounds)
    Fruit     |  Starfruit (Invisibility to Undead)             |  Potion (Invisible to Undead)
    Fruit     |  Yellow Grapes (Prayer)                         |  Green Grapes (Bless)
    Fruit     |  Yellow Pear (Cure Light Wounds)                |  Yellow Pear (Cure Light Wounds)
    Missile   |  +1 Chatchka (Produce Fire)                     |  +1 Chatchka
    Missile   |  +1 Phrain's Bow (Acid Arrow)                   |  +1 Bow (Acid Arrow)
    Missile   |  +2 Bow                                         |  +2 Bow
    Missile   |  +2 Sling                                       |  +2 Sling
    Quest     |  Llod's Rod                                     |  0 cp
    Quest     |  Metal Detection Rod                            |  10000 cp
    Ring      |  El's Ring (Dex)                                |  Ring (Dex)
    Ring      |  Light of Dawn (Dismissal)                      |  Rod? (Dismissal)
    Ring      |  Necklace (Disintegrate)                        |  50000 cp
    Ring      |  Ring of Insight (Wis)                          |  Ring (Wis)
    Ring      |  Steadfast Ring (Con)                           |  Ring (Con)
    Ring      |  Storm Ring (Ice Storm)                         |  50000 cp
    Ring      |  Wind Ring (Protection from Normal Missiles)    |  Ring (Protection from Normal Missiles)
    Shield    |  Drake Shield (+3AC, Resist Fire)               |  25400 cp
    Shield    |  El's Shield (+3AC)                             |  El's Shield (+3AC)
    Utility   |  Grappling Hook                                 |  Grappling Hook (Armor)
    Utility   |  Horn [Shell]                                   |  5 cp
    Utility   |  Rope                                           |  Grappling Hook (Armor)
    Utility   |  Shovel                                         |  Stone Pick (15 cp)
    Utility   |  Stone Pick                                     |  Stone Pick (35 cp)
    Wand      |  Dagolar's Wand (Control Body)                  |  Chatchka (Steal Breath?)
    Wand      |  Derth's Wand (Lightning Bolt)                  |  60000 cp
    Wand      |  Wand of Missiles (Magic MIssile)               |  65000 cp
    Wand      |  Wildwynd Wand (Confusion)                      |  40000 cp
     
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    Oh oh oh. I finally found the stupid buried treasure in the Elven Caravan. Although it's buried, you're not supposed to "dig it up" :D You just walk around the grassy area south of Kel's wagon and you'll "find" it lol
     
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    If anyone knows how to make char tran work on modern computers, would love to hear it
     
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    I've done this successfully several times. However, you have not described what issue you are coming up against so I cannot give a less generic reply. For me it was as simple as loading DosBox, switching to the Darksun2 directory (after mounting the Games folder), and running CharTran.exe. Then I enter my DS1 folder, DS2 folder, select which Save I want to transfer and it's done.
     
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    Trying to start the chartran sequence automatically closes the program. I put the games into folders called Dark Sun and Dark Sun 2. I don't have a completed save however, is that the issue?
     
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    Possibly, I haven't tried except with the end game save. Also I've only tried it with DOSbox on XP computers. I haven't bothered installing it on anything newer.
     
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    Not sure what you mean by "completed save" -- any save works. Also, the way you describe the problem, I'm not clear on when exactly the program aborts, or how you are trying to launch it. I'm also not sure what you mean by "chartran sequence".

    Without knowing full details, here are some random suggestions:
    1) Remove spaces from your folder names if you have any.
    2) I have this in my dosbox.conf. Obviously, replace the path with your games folder, and place the command under the already existing [autoexec]:
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    [autoexec]
    mount C "C:\Program Files\Games\"
    3) Launch DosBox (not CharTran) from Windows. Switch to C:. If you did (2) correctly, C: is NOT your true C: anymore. It is your Games folder. The following should launch the app, assuming correct folder names:
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    cd Darksun2
    CharTran
    As a last resort, if you want, upload your saves somewhere and I'll transfer it/them for you. Gdrive, Filetransfer.io are fine with me.

    FYI, I'm on Windows 7 Professional though I am dead sure this has nothing to do with Windows version because DosBox is a sandbox in itself, much like a Java applet.
     
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