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No spoilers! What should I know before playing this game?

Discussion in 'Planescape: Torment (Classic)' started by Klorox, Jan 23, 2008.

  1. Klorox

    Klorox Baruk Khazad! Khazad ai-mênu! Veteran

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    What can a player expect from PS:T?

    I'm thinking of reinstalling it on my computer, and haven't touched the game in years. I never completed it either.

    What mods/patches/ect. do I need or should I download?

    TIA
     
  2. Taluntain

    Taluntain Resident Alpha and Omega Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) BoM XenForo Migration Contributor [2015] (for helping support the migration to new forum software!)

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    I'd play with just the official patch & Platter's fixes the first time. All available on SP.
     
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    dmc Speak softly and carry a big briefcase Staff Member Distinguished Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!)

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    There is absolutely no need to power game this game, you should role play it and not worry about traditionally important stats. Keep an open mind and try things out. Most of all, keep in mind that advancing the plot and learning things is far more important than finding items or killing things.
     
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    T2Bruno The only source of knowledge is experience Distinguished Member ★ SPS Account Holder Adored Veteran New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!)

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    Read through the intentionally sparce manual. It gives some good information, but most things you will learn along the way.

    One semi-spoiler:

    Wisdom rocks. Start with 16-18 and you won't be sorry. Also, charisma is quite a good stat to have high. As said before, don't concentrate on the normal stats for a character build. You will have ample opportunity to improve stats throughout the game.
     
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    Do a full install if you can - it helps avoid some problems with reading from the CDs.
     
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    Tal: The link to Platter's fixes seems to link to some generic hosting company page with ads - perhaps his site has been taken down already.

    I found the files here:
    [snip]
     
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    Thrasher91604 For those who know ...

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    The game is very hard to get into at the beginning but the quality of storytelling is unmatched.

    I recommend to roleplay your character, not to lust after the best rewards.
    If you are a powergamer you can fight respawning monsters anytime until you have more than 1000 HP and all stats 25 if you really can't help it, so there's no need for reloading dialogues until you get the best outcome or similar things.
     
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    Hmm, sorry about that Tal, I didn't know that site's reputation, was just one of the first sites that turned up what I needed in Google.
     
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    Nearly all important fights can be avoided by talking and you nearly always get a better reward for doing so. So neglecting the physical stats is some kind of "powergaming" in PST. But it has the drawback that you are weak in combat and even the reappearing standard thugs crowding the streets can kill you. It's not that fun dying ten times when crossing a new area either. Consider how you want to play your game when choosing your stats, what is important to you.


    The "ice knife" spell is buggy, since it can give the thac0 penalty permanently. If this happens to one of your party members it can easily be fixed by dying and getting resurrected. Dying once in while can be beneficial.
     
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    I had no trouble dying when crossing areas (thugs etc) when my character was built to be a mage (high wisdom, intelligence, charisma) and (9's for strength and constitution). You can take levels as a fighter to boost your hitpoints and combat skills to make you a bit tougher. You also have to rely on your companions to help with the fighting. But that makes it all more fun for me!
     
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    Cha is mostly useless. You only get some bigger rewards, but gold is not really an issue in this game. Sometimes you may be able to solve some quests, but usually the same quests can be solved with Int or Wis.
    18 Wis is a must at the start of the game. And get it as high as possible fast. You get an insane amount of bonus experience this way. Int is also important, not only for a mage but for solving certain quests and gaining memories.
    Con and Str are only important if you plan to be a Fighter the whole game. Dex however is very important since TNO cannot use any armor.
    My suggestion would be to max Wis from the start and put an equal share of attributes between Int and Dex, if you plan to use a thief or a mage.
     
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    There are some dialogs where you can only get bonuses (XP, and important upgrades) by having high charisma. I would certainly not neglect it. It's much more important than high dexterity initially, unless you want to play a thief.

    Getting hit / killed is only annoying in this game... ;)

    (EDIT: well there are some parts where it's less cool, but you can run away or talk and still make it). Icewind Dale this ain't. ;)
     
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    Charisma is HUGE in conversation with Ravel.
     
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    nothing that a single casting of friends wont solve though
     
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    Thrasher91604 For those who know ...

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    You're CHR should be above average to begin with, unless you don't mind recasting after a quickload.

    Personally, I find casting friends annoying. My mage character (with 6 levels of thief and fighter) with a full party brought charisma up to about 16-17 before increasing dexterity past 10 or so, and did wonderfully.
     
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    You're playing an undead scarred hulk. What's so charismatic about him?:D
     
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    He's got a silver tongue, though. Charisma is more than just skin deep ;)
     
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    I consider dexterity the least useful stat, extra options for high dex are rare, the first 5 points don't give any AC and since you can't wear armor the little AC bonus for very high dex won't change much.
     
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    Agreed with kmonster there. Dexterity have few uses. The one stat I can never do without is Wisdom. Most seem to enjoy the Nameless One with Str, dex and con 9. And Buff up as much as possible on Int, Wis and Cha. This is just about the only game I know of that this actually works, which I guess is why people love it so much.

    If you want to go big badass indestructable warrior, Str, Con, Wis and focus on fighter levels, will make you into a juggernought of destruction. But you pretty much miss what most considers to be the strong points of this game.
     
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