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My Star Trek: Enterprise Thread

Discussion in 'Sensorium' started by Sir Belisarius, May 27, 2004.

  1. Sir Belisarius

    Sir Belisarius Viconia's Boy Toy Distinguished Member ★ SPS Account Holder

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    [​IMG] Well, season 3 ended last night. I thought the whole Xindi story ended pretty well, and the season STILL ended with a bizarre cliffhanger!!! Archer, badly burned, thought dead by his shipmates, lying in a german hospital presumably during WWII, and the shuttle pod coming under attack by a squadron of P-52 Mustangs over San Francisco...So it appears season 4 will be interesting as well!!!!

    The UPN network has agreed to 12 more episodes and a time slot change for Enterprise, and I hope it helps boost its ratings. I personally think this is the best Star Trek show since TNG!! I hope it doesn't get cancelled next season. There's been a mail/e-mail campaign to save it, and I really hope it works - the show has huge potential!!!

    Is anyone else watching it? If so, what do you think about the show, how did you like the Xindi ending? What would you change if you could? Personally, I like the fact that it's darker, with more killing, and the crew sometimes acts in ways that seem most un-federation like fashion...Which makes sense, since the federation doesn't exist, and Starfleet is in its infancy.

    Anyway, I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts on my current favorite tv show...

    By the way, if you haven't mailed anything in to help save the show, you can do so here.
     
  2. Taluntain

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    They've only showed the first season here, so I can't comment on anything further, but I quite liked it. Not sure how I'd rate it in comparison with other Treks though... They're showing the whole DS9 here now and next to TNG, I probably like DS9 the most. Then Enterprise, and Voyager somewhere far behind. :D
     
  3. Sir Belisarius

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    [​IMG] TNG was the best! With DS9 and Enterprise a close second, then the original...To me, Voyager can stay in the Delta Quadrant! ;)
     
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    I too, love Enterprise. I only found they may cancel it when Veritas the Quest met a sudden end and I decided to look up what happened. Then to my horror, I was bombarded with info that pretty much evey series I watch (John Doe, Jake 2.0, Veritas, etc.) is being or has been cancelled. Damn the morons who think reality TV and programmes like Friends (I watch Friends, but have no idea why it lasted as long as it did) are more interesting. How could Voyager last soooo long and Enterprise could get ditched mid 4th season?

    [ May 27, 2004, 18:33: Message edited by: Malovae ]
     
  5. Mesmero

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    I've only seen the first two seasons of Enterprise, and thought they were nice. Most of the episodes weren't spectacular, but I heard a lot of positive things about the third season, and I can't wait until they start showing it here in Holland. DS9 still remains my favorite, but I'll let you know if my opinion has changed after Enterprise's third season.

    As for what I don't like about Enterprise: they should stick to the canon a bit more. I don't really mind the new technologies and the futuristic design of the Enterprise compared to TOS; it just sets a more realistic view of the future as we expect it to be nowadays. The Klingon for-heads also doesn't really bother me, but they should really have left out the Ferengi and the Borg. Those episodes weren't a part of a bigger story line, and could have easily been left out, and leaving the future's history like we know it from the other Star Trek series.
     
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    I have to agree with Sir Bel with the standings of the shows (ie. TNG as the best; DS9 and Enterprise next...and the original and Voyager far behind).

    While I do like Enterprise; I find that there's just too many inconsistencies in the show. The appearance of Ferengi and Borg seriously damaged the show's Trek credibility (not to mention the use of the name "Enterprise" for the ship... :toofar: ), add to that a very Voyager-esque screwing around with the timelines, and you get another problem.

    Take this season's finale; I loved the closure with the Xindi, but the appearance of an alien in WW2 (with the Nazis of course!) really got on my nerves. Plus the fact that for some strange reason (which will presumably be explained next season) the earth is almost 2 centuries in the past... :almostmad: . Not cool. There's absolutely nothing worse for a tv show (especially a mostly-realistic show like Star Trek) to do than mess with the timeline. And it really pisses me off too... :flaming: .

    EDIT: Whoa...I *just* read Mesmero's post...and realized that I pretty much repeated most of the stuff he said...woops.
     
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    I refuse to watch Enterprise anymore due to my absolute disgust with the first two seasons. The acting sucked, the writing sucked, and was a huge blow to the genre. I remember an article I read prior to the first season that said that the writers fealt that they could be more creative if they started earlier in the Federation timeline. Well, they were wrong.
    On a sidenote, they've been showing the first season of TNG on SpikeTV, and I must say, I never remember it being so bad. It's funny how what started out so pathetic ended up as one of my favorite shows of all time.
     
  8. Hacken Slash

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    :confused: Isn't Star Trek an old TV show with Willam Shatner and Leonard Nimoy? :confused:
     
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    [​IMG] I agree with the knocks about constantly changing the timeline, it annoys me too. When this show ended in the 1940s, I stared at the screen thinking to myself...WTF?!?!??!?????!?!??

    I wish they would focus more on the Andorians/Romulans/Vulcans, and the eventual war with the Klingons. Those 4 races alone should give the writers plenty of storylines to dream up without the need to add yet another superace to the genre. I too got a little annoyed with the borg entrance. I liked the Ferengi bit, I was hoping they were going to keep the Ferengi's name secret so that it didn't interfere with TNG's knowledge of the Ferengi...

    It would be nice if they fleshed out the Klingon war a little better...But maybe they have something better in mind...SHould I give them that much credit?
     
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    I don't think so. Not yet at least. Maybe after another season or two, the writers'll remember about the whole klingon war. Or they'll just pull another Voyager; with the series getting significantly worse as it goes.

    Personally, I think that next season will just feature another screw-up with the timeline; along with the introduction of some new, uber-time-traveling race (I, for one, didn't recognize that blue guy at the end of the season finale).
     
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    At least Voyager had the best looking female crew
     
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    I don't know about that...T'Pol & Hoshi are pretty hot! Plus, Ashley Judd played Ensign Leffler in TNG - also very hot!!!
     
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    Not as hot as the one with the metal things on her head
     
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    Nah, T'pol is much nicer thab Seven. Not Hoshi though... that episode where she is turned into an alien kinda put me off.
     
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    Enterprise is great! I enjoyed this season immensely, and like all the other Treks, it's getting better as it ages.

    I'm not sure why they focus so much on time travel in Enterprise, since it was very rare in the other series. I don't mind it though; I find it adds interest. For example, a few episodes ago when the Enterprise got accidentally flung back 100 years and became a generational ship; and the current crew met their decendents in the "present" was pretty interesting to me...
     
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