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Life without a cleric...

Discussion in 'BG2: Throne of Bhaal (Classic)' started by Rubel, Jan 31, 2004.

  1. Rubel Gems: 3/31
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    This is my second time through the game, and so I decided to take all different party members (except for Imoen, who I just can't leave behind). I also installed a bunch of mods...whee! I'd like to have Soulafein in my party, just to see what he's like.

    My problem is that last time I took all the lady clerics with me, so I'm stuck with Anomen. I just...well, I just don't like him that much, so I'd rather bring along some crazies like Edwin and Jan. I'm currently facing life without a cleric! it seems impossible, but I'm sure folks have done it.

    Any advice for the cleric-less? beside "buy a lot of potions"?
     
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    Ummm... Druid? Or did you mean life without a priest?

    Other than that I guess all I can say is "buy a lot of potions".

    Actually, other than that I guess all I can say is "get a cleric". ;)
     
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    Bah. If you've got a bunch of mods installed... then chances are you've got plenty of potions. I've got Tactics (well, most of it) and Ease installed and I NEVER seem to run out of potions. The only use a Cleric is to me is for his spells (not of the Cure variety though, don't need em) and for turning undead.
     
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    Start seeking out all items that grant regeneration (so you won't be resting as often), especially the Rings of Gaax.
    Give all mages Polymorph Self, so you can change from one creature to another and restore lost hit points.
    Get the Cloak of the Sewers so one of you can use the Troll Form and regenerate HP.
    Get the Rod of Resurrection. If one of you goes low on HP, you can just kill and resurrect him/her so he/she'll come back with full health. :)
    It also helps should you find yourself with a lot of casualties in an isolated dungeon.
     
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    Buff up real badly so you don't get hit is also a good way of not needing a cleric :) Maybe put that wand of resurrection to awfully good use? ;) Paladins can heal too by the way. Lay on hands, and they get some spellcasting too.
     
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    IIRC, if you dont skip any quests, do subquests and the like, by the time you meet Aran Linvail you ought to have 2 rods of resurrection, both of them purchased, but that's what the quest rewards are for. :D

    [ February 01, 2004, 10:27: Message edited by: Thais Paradox ]
     
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    There's also the option of paying for healing in temples of course.
     
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    Actually, you get one free Rod of Ressurection in Mekrath's Dungeon. No paying for that one.
     
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    Don't get hurt. I mean, don't allow so much damage. Avoid melee more often than with a party with healers. This might help too.
     
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    Adding to Scythesong Immortal's post, give a item of Regeneration (even if it's 1 hitpoint/minute or something) to a character that gets hurt alot or one who is injured. That way when you rest your character(s) will heal fully.
     
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    Or you could go to "Game Options" on the menu screen and select "Rest until Healed" :rolleyes:
     
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    Loerand My heart holds no fear for death

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    Yeah, but then if you're seriously injured, you might be resting for several days in a dark, creepy dungeon. Not very much RPing IMO...
     
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    If you have a character with a regen item and you rest with "rest until heald" turned on your amount of rest required to heal is directly proportional to how badly damaged you are, I discovered this with one of my many soled characters.

    If you have a ranger (any kit) or a Mid-high level Paladin have them memorize healing spells and use the rest until heald option, if not you need regeneration items (you can get about five that I know of in SoA, at least one of them is next to useless) if you can't do that then you need potions, if you run out of potions then go to a temple and buy a Greater restoration (1200 gp but you only need to use it on one person to affect all.)
     
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    I always have "rest until healed" turned on. The way it works in my case is, if you don't need the healing you rest 8 hours and otherwise you rest 16 hours. Even with everybody at less then 10 HP and no healing spells memorized it was only 16 hours of rest. While if you don't use the option and just use rest repeatedly you'll be resting several days. That's the reason that option is almost cheating. You never rest more than 16 hours with the option. It's always 8 or 16 hours. (or if there is another amount I never saw it happen)
     
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    [​IMG] Rest until healed is a useful option, especially for beginners. Although it is non-AD&D, so if you decide to use this option, you won't play according to AD&D rules, no matter if your difficulty level is middle (true AD&D).
     
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    Scythesong, you do realize the rod of resurrection can completely heal anyone WITHOUT killing them off first? It can also be used from anywhere on the map so you can put a weak NPC in an isolated room and have them use the rod on a badly injured tank in the battle area.
     
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    Who needs clerics ;)
     
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    I didn't know that, jeremiah.
    Interesting property, that. :)


    What's life without one? Considering they're responsible for healing and resurrection... ;)
     
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    Alternatively you could get Cernd to take care of all your healing duties.
     
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    You dont need a cleric for his healing spells in BGII. In my current game Viccy has a raise dead as the only healing type spell abouve L2. She has a couple of minor heals coz there doesnt seem to be a lot to choose from in L1 spells. Since you can get 2 rings of Regeneration, an Ioun stone and 2 rods of Resurrection by the time you get out of spell hold, you dont need anything else.

    Hell! The way I play it I dont even use potions unless its in the middle of a fight to get someone from deaths doors in a hurry. Else who ever is seriously wounded goes to the rear of the file, wears both rings and uses missiles till he gets to 70% HP.

    If its just healing you are worried about, you dont require Clerics.
     
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