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Items for Crom Faeyr?

Discussion in 'Baldur's Gate 2: Enhanced Edition' started by Eyebreaker7, Jun 11, 2016.

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    Does anything special happen when you wear the gauntlets of ogre power, the girdle of frost giant strength and wield the hammer of thunderbolts? I know it does in pnp but it doesn't look like it does here? I guess you just get to morph them with the scroll and that's that?
     
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    Nothing whatsoever.
     
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    As far as i know, the gauntlets and girdle will be used to actually create Crom Faeyr - wearing them all seperately won't doanything besides giving you their individual bonuses.
    Though technically you'd not receive any bonus from the gauntlets, since the girdle sets your strength to a higher amount then the gauntlets will, thus overriding it.
     
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    In pnp if you equipped all 3 of them you got both the +#/+# from the gauntlets AND the girdle combined. I don't remember if it worked that way for ANY hammer but it did for the hammer of thunderbolts. It also had the effect to stun nearby enemies with a thunderous bang/clap, kinda like an area effect of celestial furry or something similar. Also it killed any giant it hit automatically. Don't remember if there was a save for it or not?
    This was all way back in 1st edition. I don't remember if it worked that way for any other editions?
    The leader of the flaming fists group had all 3 items.
     
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    The weapon and girdle/belt has gone through many iterations across many editions - for example, it is also in pathfinder where you only need to equip it together with a belt of giant strength (and know that the hammer is the hammer of thunderbolts) to gain it's effects.
    However, in pathfinder it is a returning throwing hammer, instead of melee. it also makes a thunderclap sound that can stun those its thrown at if they fail a save.
    In 3.5 D7D it works much as you describe - you must wear the belt of giant Strength and gauntlets of ogre power and have knowledge that the hammer is a hammer of thunderbolts, but when you do it allows the bonuses of the belt and gauntlets to stack (while you are wielding the hammer).
    5E changes things up again - once again needing you to wear the belt and gauntlets, but this time you only gain +4 to your strength, and the weapon is melee but you gain 5 uses to throw the weapon each day.

    But regardless of how they work in tabletop, in whatever edition - they just don't function that way in Baldur's Gate.
    In fact, i'd say the way baldur's gate goes about it makes it more powerful - the gauntlets and belt are consumed to make Crom Faeyr, which still becomes a +5 weapon, but this then opens up your belt and gauntlet slot for other gear, which you wouldn't be able to wear in tabletop without taking off the gauntlets of ogre power/belt of giant strength, which in turn would make you lose the effect of the whole combination.

    You could wear the Gauntlets of Extraordinary Specialization for an extra 1/2 attack, +2 damage and +1thac0 to pump up your damage potential even more, as well as the Belt of Inertial Barrier for it's great defensive boost.
     
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    Yes BG2 def makes it better with Crom! Especially because, like you said, it frees up glove and belt slots. It's a shame it can't do the thunder clap though :)
    Doesn't the HoT (when wearing the gauntlets and belt as well) also kill giants as well as it does trolls, ettins, golems? In the non-BG2 pnp games?
     
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    There's also no mechanism allowing for item set bonuses in IE. It's not impossible to implement but, without an underlying system for it, it's not elegant either.
     
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    You could semi do it like the flail of the ages where instead of building it you combined bonuses??
     
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