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Dealing with charm/imprisonment/instant death

Discussion in 'BG2: Throne of Bhaal (Classic)' started by spitzig, Sep 12, 2011.

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    I'm playing through this game for the first time. Apparently, the way to deal with imprisonment is a 9th level spell. I have at most 7th level spells. I'm in Watcher's Keep trying to kill the Demon Wraith, and keep getting instantly killed, sometimes before I even get a hit in. OR, maybe I kill him but everyone's running around like chicken with their heads cut off-and die from the traps. My thief isn't good enough to detect the traps-I thought 100 would detect anything.

    So, I gave up and I'm cheating. I gave myself saving throws of 1 for spells, wands, death magic. If I understand correctly a 1 is a critical failure, so that should be good. But, they are still running around like idiots.

    Even without the difficulty caused by all this, the lack of control of my characters is REALLY irritating.


    Anyway, HOW do you make yourself immune to this stuff? By hacking the save games, I mean.
     
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    You're doing Watchers Keep too early.
     
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    First of all, like Barms says, save Watcher's Keep for later - when you're in Throne of Bhaal.

    You can protect your characters against death spells with the priest spell Death Ward. Fear can be countered with Invoke Courage or Protection from Fear - cast it before the encounter!

    The way I usually deal with him is to summon a high-level creature, like a Deva or Fallen Deva, right in front of him so he wastes his spells on a Deva who is probably immune to them. But again, you need high-level abilities for that, which you probably won't have until late in Chapter 6.
     
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    Until you are in ToB you won't be able to get to the Pocket Plane to do anything with the artifact pieces that you find.
     
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    Watcher's Keep is an advanced dungeon, it has lots of tricky monsters/levels.

    Saving Throws work like AC - the lower your saves (numerically) the better your characters' chances of resisting spell effects. Spells like Imprisonment however grant no save. The only other spell that protects against Imprisonment is Spell Immunity, which is a level 5 caster-only spell.
     
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    beware when you read this, for a first time player it might spoil your fun when you know the cheats in the game, read at your own risk

    some ways you can deal with your problems:

    get a berserker, with its berserk ability, you can avoid many of the problems

    buy scroll "protection from magic" (was it from ribald?) that will help you alot (cheat: you can first simulcrum or project image the person with the scroll and cast it from the image and you will have a limitless supply of prot from magic scrolls)

    one of the potions sold by roger the fence which protects you from magic 5th level or below, will actually protect you much higher than 5th level. i think only one of the mods will fix this.

    you can cast spell immunity multiple times, and a sorcerer using project image can cast many many spell immunities... enjoy
     
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