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Could Trump have made a deal with the devil?

Discussion in 'Alley of Lingering Sighs' started by SlickRCBD, Mar 6, 2017.

  1. SlickRCBD Gems: 25/31
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    I've been lying in bed having trouble sleeping when I had this really strange thought. Probably from playing too much AD&D as a tween and teen, along with a love of cRPGs since I got my first when I was 10.

    What if the reason Donald Trump was able to get elected was because he sold his soul to the devil to be elected?
    It might explain how there is so much massive protest about him afterwards, and how he was able to be elected in the first place.
    This guy was considered a joke candidate at first, yet he somehow started winning the primaries. What if all this support was because "the devil made me vote for him"?

    I don't really believe that, and while I don't really support him as a president, but it sounds like a good plot for a modern supernatural setting that maybe somebody else might find useful.

    Just a a crazy idea I thought I'd share.
     
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    Maybe he IS the devil :)
     
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    The red tie is a dead giveaway. :evil:
     
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    I don't think Trump made a deal with Hillary to win the election. That would just be weird.
     
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    To be fair I suspect if he had used supernatural means, it'd still be in play.

    I think the fact that the majority of the world hates him means that it didn't work very well!
     
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    I think the majority of the world doesn't really care.
     
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    Ah, but isn't that the classic old trope when making deals with the devil/getting wishes from a genie ? you get what you wished for, but almost always in a way that doesn't make you happy - your wish gets fulfilled to the letter, but not in spirit. ;)
     
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    Depends. I tend to remember the ones where you get what you want before you die...afterwards it gets a little hot!
     
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    Nah ... he just made a deal with the stupid.
     
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    Wouldn’t those US citizens who actually believe in deals with the devil (bible belt) have voted for Trump anyway, deal or no deal?
     
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    Not necessarily. Plenty of religious people that might believe it is possible to make a deal with the devil might see Trump as evil and vote for somebody else.
     
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    Do I think Trump made a deal with the devil.. no.. and I hope not.

    Don't forget, many religious people may either ignore Trump's downside or vote for him as their own proverbial deal with the devil.

    Some religious and politically aware individuals don't admire Trump and say so. But when this happens within general rightwing political and religious groups this can end up being seen as working against them rather than that they held to their core beliefs.

    I think this particular individual described some of the things Trump has said or done as "moral sewage". But a lot of people within his broader religious organization don't take his comments to heart but criticize him for drinking "the Kool-Aid" when arguably the reverse is true and he was being consistent.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-of-trump-controversy/?utm_term=.7a418e20b4be


    But as Sean Spicer said in a White House briefing last week. The employment numbers that Trump called a "hoax" on the campaign trail in 2016 are, according to Spicer, "very real" now. Note the agency that puts out the numbers hasn't changed but the person who is President has.
     
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    Its a grand comedy worth several Oscars. In Europe we all enjoy the show as we watch:clap: how the US got the president they deserved. And yes, it can get worse.
     
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    Honestly, I don't think that anyone deserves Trump. Possibly not even Melania.
     
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    Yes you do. All not Trump voters that did not vote know to vote next time. All the Trump lovers have a field day.

    If only the wicked witch of the midwest was the other option...
     
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    Well, I don't since I'm not American. Trump's actually lost a lot of support since his election, but which politician doesn't...
     
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    Perhaps his soul was worth more than Hilary's? It's practically a proven fact that she was colluding with the Ruskies to get their help for the win, and now that she's lost she's burning that relationship hard, probably they felt she wasn't really worth the effort.

    Boy is this gonna get me in how water, we have too many people who are just totally blind to how corrupt our government is in general no matter which party is in charge. Washington DC needs to be covered in plastic and GASSED, just like you do with any vermin-infested house. It would put the next tenants on notice that they had better learn to police themselves.

    A lot of us Deplorables are just sick and tired of the "do as we say, not as we do" mentality that's coming out of Washington the last several decades.

    I should note that I come from a state that voted a former Pro Wrestler as State Governor just to let folks know we were really tired of the two parties shenanigans. And it was GLORIOUS.
     
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    Gassed, you say? Tell me more about this plan...

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    Rofl. I'm not a terrorist or anything. I just have a very low opinion of most career politicians. I am amazed at how few American's know that our Founding Fathers didn't have a great opinion of them either. Too many people seem to think that somebody becomes a career politician and somehow magically they become a totally altruistic unselfish angel instead of the stupid selfish self-obsessed jerk they always were BEFORE.

    “If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary.
    --Alexander Hamilton


    I believe similar thoughts were expressed by James Madison, but I could be wrong about that.
     
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    Call me crazy, but I honestly thought that the Green or Libertarian party had a chance to become viable options last year considering who the choices from both the Elephants and the Donkeys were. (Choice referring to them as animals vs Green and Libertarians is deliberate).
     
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