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The best bow revisited

Discussion in 'BG2: Throne of Bhaal (Classic)' started by Bsisi, Oct 29, 2011.

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    There is nothing about falling. Anyway, core fixes contain:
    So getting the STR bonus certainly causes a ranger to fall. No idea about the dmg / thac0 bonus

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    Also, interesting thing. Assuming that you don't use bolts of lightning in Firetooth and that you don't want to fall, the highest damage/round deals Archer(21) / Cleric(26) or (22/24) thanks to the Sling of Seeking, Draw Upon Holy Might and Rightous Magic. Not counting spells that a friendly cleric can cast on any archer, it's 370 dmg/round vs otherwise best 345. With 1/2 GWW + 1 WW (350 dmg/round) it's not very sustainable though.
     
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    I'm soloing the game and I'm near the end of Act 2. My STR/DEX/CON are all at 19 (I did BG1 already), but after DUHM - 24/25/25. So there's a cap. :/

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    Disregard that. I just noticed that I forgot to change a shield that gave me -1 STR. I have 25/25/25 now.
     
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    25 has always been the cap for any stat in 1st and 2nd ed. games.
     
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    I always liked fire tooth with the pulse ammo. very accurate, deadly, and gives you 5 attacks per round with any character. Though I am unsure what the exact stats for pulse ammo is...
     
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    ... I wonder how daggers/axes/hammers compare when wielded by a kensai.
     
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    Well it worked well with my swashbuckler so I bet it would work well with kensai. Only trick is that your normal rate of fire won't be that high but your damage will be very good especially with str bonus giving weapons.
     
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    I did some simpler comparison a couple of days ago. Staff of the Ram does ~536-537 dmg/round. As to single handed weapons, Flail of the Ages does a little under 526, followed by Club of Detonation (521.6), Storm Star (466).
    Dagger of the Star = 405
    Crom Feyr = Runehammer = 431
    Axe of Unielding = 433

    I assumed a single enemy, so Club of Detonation and Storm Star damage should be increased. And assumed that you don't miss, except for crits.
    The spreadsheet:
    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YSX0GHSG

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    Sorry, a mistake.
    The spreadsheet calculates dmg / hit, not dmg / attack, so it ignores crit. misses (but takes crit. hits into account). To give you the numbers I just multiplied it by 10, but to be correct it should be 10*19/20.
    SotR does 510.5 dmg/round then, others should be adjusted too.

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    I just spotted another mistake, I equipped the Kensai with gaunlets.
    490.5 now.
    Updated spreadsheet:
    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HAZ25KTD

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    Only now it occurred that the weird selection of weapon types may have something to do with the fact that they are distance weapons. I added them to the spreadsheet. Assuming that they get +dmg from strength:
    Rifhome axe 350.4
    Dwarven Thrower: 364.8
    K'logarath: 376.6
    Fire Tooth: 379.1

    Hmm...assumptions might be incorrect it's actually more than a non-cheesy archer. The game is broken. :(

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    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Y9AZE9MV
     
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    Great thread, thoroughly enjoyed reading it but, as a consequence of 'you-know-who' the spreadsheet is gone. Any chance someone has a copy they could upload somewhere else? I'm late to the party I know but I wanna see *pouts*
     
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