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Jaheira

Discussion in 'BG2: Throne of Bhaal (Classic)' started by omnigodly, Aug 23, 2007.

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    Ugh!! Now I remember why I stopped taking her in my parties. I honestly think she's the most annoying half-elf in the game.

    Jaheira quits the harpers, then quits my party, (with all my gear mind you) and threatens to come after me if I'm not good. How long does it take for her to come after me? My reputation went from 16 to 5 and no sign of her. Any clue when she comes back around? I really wanna slaughter her and get all my gear back :) .
     
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    Beren's going to close this thread in a real hurry ;)

    I never had her leave my party like that before. But when I played evil, I booted her from the party, and she was at her usual spot outside the harper base. Then she attacked me when I talked to her with a low reputation. But I get the feeling that your situation is different.
     
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    I have neglected to check outside the harper hold, but I'll go check it out now. It might be that she did end up going back there.

    Thanks.

    EDIT: She wasn't there :( . I was soooo hoping though!
     
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    Actually, afaik, if a character leaves your party because of rep issues, they are gone from the game for good and don't return. So the only solution would be to load a save from before she quit, continue without your gear or just cheat your gear back into your party with the generate item cheats.
     
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    She left while I had 16 rep, not 5. The reason for her leaving was me getting her angry over the romance.
     
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    Then she still can leave you for good - depending on what you said. It looks like you scared her away :)
     
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    Serves you right! :p :grin:
     
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    !! Don't spite me Beren, or may run a few saves to kill a naked Jaheria - just for you!!!

    lol jkjk - I'm gonna restarted for the fourth time just before heading to the pirate island with a Kensai DUALED TO MAGE... so much work...
     
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    Jaheira's a crap character in terms of power, and she doesn't even try to roleplay her true neutral alignment (she's basically a chaotic good vigilante who seeks to destroy evil wherever it may lurk). BIO gave her Harper's Call to not make her totally useless.

    She's there because of BIO's weird fetish for widows/ex-girlfriends. See Aribeth from NWN.
     
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    This I would not agree with. Not only can she hold her own in the front line if need be (with a good spear, of course); but she can really flesh out your spellcasting options, as well. I don't often play a druid, so I've always found Jaheira to be an extremely useful and versatile character.

    Plus she's hot. :D
     
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    Shes a mean killing machine - in the right hands
     
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    Jaheira can be extremely powerful if you can get her to level 16 as a druid, with the upgrade to 6 spell slots of every spell level. Thing is once she hits 15 it takes forever to get her to 16, something i feel makes her worse of a character than others since she feels stagnant. And since she doesn't get her special high level abilities until she gets to 16th, she just gets left behind in spell power compared to the other characters which is a second strike against her. She seems to have gotten the shortest straw from blizzard, the odd widow fetish, the funny alignment issues, and then the absurdity with how they worked the druid class. Its just to much working against one character.
     
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    Zerox: That surprises me. Normally, multi-class characters get access to their hla the moment they pass the xp cap of bg2. So, the moment Jaheira hits around 3000000xp total she should get access to her hla. And in the core game (patched, but only official patches) you can take hla from another class than the one you are leveling in. Meaning she can take druid hla for her fighter levels or vice versa.
     
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    Jaheira is absolutely deadly if you play her right. I prefer to give her spears and build up her proficiencies accordingly. With just ironskins she can easily become the top tank in the game -- send her in first to be the primary target and everybody get to whack on the bad guys while they try in vain to break through her Ironskins. It's almost cheating.
     
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    Jaheira's big fault is bad STR.
    Give her a girdle or any other STR booster, and she becomes lethal with the ironskins as mentionned.
    My personal favorite is to give her the best armor possible, the best shield, and she becomes a real decoy / tank. Her AC will be ridiculously low and she'll have ironskins.

    Also, her Druid spells make her a great mage disabler with the insect spells. Not to mention Nature's beauty and the heal spells.

    Very useful character.
     
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    She still get access to HLA's at around 3mil xp (1.5mil in each class), the HLA spell's are just an issue in that druids only have one 7th level spell slot at 14th level (1.5mil xp) and can hence only use such a spell once. This problem is rectified when she reaches lvl 15 (3mil xp) as she will have access to six 7th level spell slots. It should be noted that Clerics don't get six 7th level spell slots until lvl 34 (at around 5.8mil xp). Also, just before the 3mil xp mark a druid will have 1 7th level spell slot and a cleric will have 2.
     
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    Jaheira is a very solid and useful character. She can easily reach best AC, resistances, and saving throws (harper pin helps a lot!), with iron skins/protection and healing spells, plus summoning and healing, she is easily the most durable character in even the most dangerous situations. Once you get an item to raise her STR she can kill fast too. Plus I love her character, her romance and quests are always fun and intriguing for me.
     
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    Right, ED. I didn't even mention the offensive/mage killing aspects of Jaheira. Insect Plague is great, but I preferred Creeping Doom to Nature's Beauty. The Fire Elemental conjured is the best summon (IMO) and Call Woodland Being is pretty powerful for a fourth level spell. She doesn't have powergamer stats, but is certainly a powerhouse.

    Of course, Cernd can do all of these and enter a battle as a Greater Werewolf with Ironskins -- I don't know of many things that withstand that assault. But he doesn't have anywhere near the banter that Jaheira has.

    As far as romances; I thought Jaheira's was the most complete and extremely well written, but I liked the Viconia romance a little more (the ability to change her alignment was a great add on).
     
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    I don't know what it is about this character but I love her about as much as one can love an NPC. I find it incredibley difficult not to bring Jaheira in my party. She fits well with my good aligned parties (the fact that she is Neutral Good helps). I love her dialogue and quests, and her voicing is so well done that I use it in Icewind Dale 2 for female druid characters. In my opinion she beats Cernd hands down (I don't like Shapeshifters) and can easily tank or work the back lines with a sling due to her meaty Dexterity (gotta love that elf blood). Druid spells are very useful, and almost worth giving up Restoration and Holy Smite for (although I usually have both :rolleyes: ). The only thing that I think Black Isle should have done in the first place to make her better would be to have her as a Pure Class Druid!
     
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    I know what you meen; I also have her with me each and every single time I play. You could say, that it was because of me, her husband died, and thus I have to take her with me - not that I need an excuse :)
     
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