Batman

dmc · Fri, 27th Jul '12, 8:28pm

Even with the shooting in Colorado, I'm surprised that no one has yet done a thread on the movie.

I saw it last night and thought it was great. The story was extremely well done for my tastes and I absolutely loved the entire ending (not just the last scene but the events leading to the climax all the way through).

I think that this was a really intelligent take on the Batman story.

I had some sound issues in the movie, but they may have been intentional in that there were some times where I just couldn't figure out what Bane was saying. Maybe a mouthful of metal does that . . .

I'm generally not a huge Anne Hathaway fan, but I thought she was really good in her role and played it well. Easy on the eyes, too.

For those who have not seen it, DO NOT click on this spoiler:

Spoiler!

Gaear · Fri, 27th Jul '12, 8:36pm

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Originally Posted by dmc

there were some times where I just couldn't figure out what Bane was saying.

This should clear it up.

dmc · Fri, 27th Jul '12, 8:40pm

That was awesome! Batman does not fight the mentally challenged!

Morgoth · Fri, 27th Jul '12, 11:18pm

I thought the unraveling at the end was pretty bad

Spoiler!

and why does Bane sound like Scooby Doo?

Edit, and like with the previous movie, batman is still unintelligible:

Harbourboy · Sat, 28th Jul '12, 3:05am

Most of it was good, but I was very disappointed by the last five minutes. I don't knew how to do spoiler alerts so I won't say any more but I would have much preferred it to end five minutes earlier. The last five minutes spoiled the tone of the whole movie.

Gaear · Sat, 28th Jul '12, 6:19pm

Since this is sort of serving as the defacto Batman funny spoof videos thread, I'll add another one here that deals with the whole Robin theme in a very roundabout way.

(Warning: it's actually kind of violent.)

reepnorp · Sat, 28th Jul '12, 6:36pm

I enjoyed it. Not as much as I did the second one, but it was solid nonetheless. I thought the guy playing Bane did a fantastic job, I had no idea it was the same guy who played Shinzon in Star Trek: Nemsis until I got home and looked him up, he really bulked up for this role.

Spoiler!

Rawgrim · Sat, 28th Jul '12, 7:48pm

Very good movie. I`d say a 7 out of 10. The "weakest" of the trilogy, but still a very good watch.

Harbourboy · Sun, 29th Jul '12, 3:58am

Nobody else thought the last four or five minutes were lame?

dmc · Mon, 30th Jul '12, 7:11am

Not me. I really quite liked them. Part of the ending reminded me a little of the end of Good Will Hunting.

Gaear · Mon, 30th Jul '12, 5:48pm

I haven't seen the new one yet, but I recently re-watched the first two. I actually found the first one a bit campy and not so good (with the exception of Scarecrow, who I thought was excellent). The second by comparison was very much 'serious business' and quite compelling.

How does the third stack up when compared directly to the second?

Rawgrim · Mon, 30th Jul '12, 6:24pm

I liked the ending. The actors and the novelization confirmed my suspicions about the ending, though. To be honest, i had to check to be sure.

I still preffer the first one in the series. thought it was great. the second one was...I dunno...It didn`t feel as if the movie was about Batman. Third one, in my opinion, is the weakest one. I`d give it a 7 out of 10. Something like that. Deffinatly worth the watch.

Déise · Mon, 30th Jul '12, 10:25pm

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Originally Posted by Gaear

I haven't seen the new one yet, but I recently re-watched the first two. I actually found the first one a bit campy and not so good (with the exception of Scarecrow, who I thought was excellent). The second by comparison was very much 'serious business' and quite compelling.

How does the third stack up when compared directly to the second?

While it does try to keep the serious tone I thought it was a lot more "blockbustery." There's more explosions, the plot is a bit over the top in places and there's quite a few moments that break the "internal" realism of the films. If you accept Batman has fantastic ninja skills and his gadgets work he can pick off a dozen armed goons one or two at a time. Taking them all on together in a wide open space though just shouldn't work. Someone would just take a step back and shoot him.

Having said that, it is great, great fun. But in the artistic merits place I'd put it below the first.

I didn't like Bane or any of the other baddies who popped up. While Bane had some speeches he hardly had any proper conversations with other people at all and he reminded me of Jaws a bit. Not as interesting as Scarecrow, Ras al Ghul or the mob boss. And it was stupidly hard to make out what he was saying. Actually there's quite a few other lines which were hard to make out against the music.

Catwoman was a good character but a bit generic. The wayward rogue who has a good heart really and just needs to come around to the hero's thinking to be saved. The Batman Returns character was much more unique and I though Rachel Dawes was a stronger woman even without the ass kicking (especially Gyllenhal's). Hathaway was great with what she had though. I've seen a lot of people say they were surprised by her but I don't get why. Is it because she's normally in chick flicks?

Gnarfflinger · Wed, 1st Aug '12, 8:05pm

I'll probably have to wait until it's on DVD ro see it. I don't get to the theatres where I am.

Aldeth the Foppish Idiot · Wed, 1st Aug '12, 8:35pm

I still liked the second one the best, although I must say that in terms of plot connection, it really pulls more from the first movie than the second. (And yes, Scarecrow has a cameo in this movie too, so he's in all three.)

I think the reason I liked the second one the best of them all is that, yes, the Joker is meant to be an insane character, but in this series, he was more diabolical sociopath than just crazy.

That said, while I felt the ending was telegraphed, I didn't mind it at all. And yes, the plot twist at the end was excellent - totally didn't see that one coming (well not the very end - I'm talking about the plot twist that's revealed with like 10 minutes left in the movie).

Beren · Fri, 3rd Aug '12, 6:00am

Overall, I liked it, even if the overall story was over the top.

But the second remains the best. Heath Ledger's interpretation of the Joker is immortalized.

Bane was pretty bad ass, but damn ... good luck making out anything he's saying. And I found Hathaway kinda bland as Cat Woman.

T2Bruno · Fri, 3rd Aug '12, 3:45pm

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Overall, I liked it, even if the overall story was over the top.

- Mister Redundancy Man strikes again....

Aldeth the Foppish Idiot · Fri, 3rd Aug '12, 8:20pm

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Originally Posted by Beren

even if the overall story was over the top.

It certianly was, but you kinda expect that going in, don't you? I mean not just Batman, but any superhero movie is going to be like that. They're ALL over the top.

Fri, 27th Jul '12, 8:28pm	#1
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Fri, 27th Jul '12, 11:18pm	#4
Morgoth Forever reading, never to be read! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Amsterdam, Holland Posts: 3,608 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 8,319 Level: 27 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 57.7% Daily Activity 2.46% Weekly Activity 2.46% Monthly Activity 1.51% Achievements	I thought the unraveling at the end was pretty bad Spoiler! Some irrelevant chick turns out to be the bad girl! The scriptwriter should stop reading Dan Brown novels, or at least learn to properly foreshadow. Just dumping a bad guy to wrap up the plot isn't mind blowing, it makes the plot meaningless. Also, the ultimate reason why batman is called the Dark Knight? He wears a dark outfit. Woohoo. There's nothing metaphorical about it. I was hoping that batman would become lost in his misery and learns a violent streak. He doesn't. and why does Bane sound like Scooby Doo? Edit, and like with the previous movie, batman is still unintelligible:
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reepnorp SPS Account Holder Lim'n Lime Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada, eh? Posts: 1,671 Like: 6 Liked 7 Times in 6 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 4,164 Level: 20 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 46.16% Daily Activity 2.46% Weekly Activity 2.46% Monthly Activity 1.51% Achievements Awards	I enjoyed it. Not as much as I did the second one, but it was solid nonetheless. I thought the guy playing Bane did a fantastic job, I had no idea it was the same guy who played Shinzon in Star Trek: Nemsis until I got home and looked him up, he really bulked up for this role. Spoiler! Also I had a feeling that one guy would turn out to be Robin, he just struck me as the first real friend Bruce ever had from their origin stories.

Wed, 1st Aug '12, 8:35pm	#15
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Sat, 28th Jul '12, 3:05am	#5
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Sat, 28th Jul '12, 6:19pm	#6
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Sat, 28th Jul '12, 7:48pm	#8
Rawgrim Gems: 21/31 Latest gem: Pearl Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Norway Posts: 1,363 Like: 0 Liked 8 Times in 8 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 3,337 Level: 18 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 58.08% Daily Activity 2.46% Weekly Activity 2.46% Monthly Activity 1.51% Achievements	Very good movie. I`d say a 7 out of 10. The "weakest" of the trilogy, but still a very good watch.

Sun, 29th Jul '12, 3:58am	#9
Harbourboy SPS Account Holder Take thy form from off my door! Join Date: May 2003 Location: North Harbour Posts: 13,220 Like: 53 Liked 11 Times in 10 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 28,186 Level: 45 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 71.72% Daily Activity 2.46% Weekly Activity 23.59% Monthly Activity 11.05% Achievements Awards	Nobody else thought the last four or five minutes were lame?

Mon, 30th Jul '12, 7:11am	#10
dmc SPS Account Holder Distinguished Member Moderator Speak softly and carry a big briefcase 3 Card Poker Champion! Balloon Shoot Champion! Bumper Golf Champion! Falldown Champion! Plumber 2 Champion! Rotations Champion! Towerball Champion! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA Posts: 6,493 Like: 18 Liked 52 Times in 42 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 15,908 Level: 36 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 22.64% Daily Activity 2.46% Weekly Activity 51.76% Monthly Activity 41.27% Achievements Awards	Not me. I really quite liked them. Part of the ending reminded me a little of the end of Good Will Hunting.

Mon, 30th Jul '12, 5:48pm	#11
Gaear SPS Account Holder Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,680 Like: 48 Liked 69 Times in 45 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 4,753 Level: 21 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 67.32% Daily Activity 2.46% Weekly Activity 123.94% Monthly Activity 63.93% Achievements Awards	I haven't seen the new one yet, but I recently re-watched the first two. I actually found the first one a bit campy and not so good (with the exception of Scarecrow, who I thought was excellent). The second by comparison was very much 'serious business' and quite compelling. How does the third stack up when compared directly to the second?

Mon, 30th Jul '12, 6:24pm	#12
Rawgrim Gems: 21/31 Latest gem: Pearl Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Norway Posts: 1,363 Like: 0 Liked 8 Times in 8 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 3,337 Level: 18 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 58.08% Daily Activity 2.46% Weekly Activity 2.46% Monthly Activity 1.51% Achievements	I liked the ending. The actors and the novelization confirmed my suspicions about the ending, though. To be honest, i had to check to be sure. I still preffer the first one in the series. thought it was great. the second one was...I dunno...It didn`t feel as if the movie was about Batman. Third one, in my opinion, is the weakest one. I`d give it a 7 out of 10. Something like that. Deffinatly worth the watch.

Wed, 1st Aug '12, 8:05pm	#14
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Fri, 3rd Aug '12, 6:00am	#16
Beren SPS Account Holder Moderator\|Writer Lovesick and Lonely Wanderer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 2,256 Like: 1 Liked 9 Times in 9 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 6,813 Level: 25 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 31.76% Daily Activity 2.46% Weekly Activity 39.44% Monthly Activity 15.42% Achievements Awards	Overall, I liked it, even if the overall story was over the top. But the second remains the best. Heath Ledger's interpretation of the Joker is immortalized. Bane was pretty bad ass, but damn ... good luck making out anything he's saying. And I found Hathaway kinda bland as Cat Woman.